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which is the number of customers for a uBR7246VXR cmts.
what are the limitations?
I have a CISCO document that that says from 1.000 to 10.000 subscribers.

But how they are distributed?
whats the max number of clients per card?
whats the max number of clientes per upstream channel?
whats the max number of clientes for downstream?
Is there a limitation of bandwith per node?

Does anyone have these clear for these CMTS?

Regards.-

The answer is it depends, the top number of modems a 7246vxr can support is a fixed number somewhere around 10k I believe. However, in practice you will likely never get close.

The number of customers you can put on a 7246vxr depends on the Line Cards you have in it. There are essentially 3 different types of Line Cards that can go into a 7246 vxr.

1. MCXXC or MCXXS Blades Docsis 1.x only cards --- Examples of these are MC16C and MC28C A MC16C has 1 Downstream and 6 upstreams, a MC28C has 2 Downstreams and 8 Upstreams

2 MCXXU or MCXXX Blades Docsis 1,x and 2.0 Blades --- Examples of these are MC16X and MC28U the MC16X has 1 downstream and 6 upstreams and the MC28U blade has 2 Downstreams and 8 Upstreams, the main differences between the MCXXC and MCXXU blades are: 1. the U/X blades have a built-in upconverter and an onboard processor.

3. MC88V Docsis 1.x,2.0 and 3.0 Blade -- Like the MCXXU/X blades this blade has a built in upconverter and onboard processor however it has 8 downstreams and 8 upstreams (the downstreams require at least 4 consecutive channels)

The downstream channels come in two varieties:

64QAM -- ~ 27 Mbps of throughput
256QAM -- ~ 38 Mbps of throughput

The upstreams have a bit more variety
TDMA -- ~ 5Mbps of Throughput Docsis 1.x+
ATDMA -- ~ 15Mbps+ of Throughput Docsis 2.0+

there are some others but these are the most common

In addition depending on the docsis version you are using you may have multiple down or upstreams.

So with the primer out of the way .... the amount of customers you can put on a 7246vxr depends on what linecards you put in it, what kind of bandwidth you offer and most importantly how much bandwidth your customers use.

some real world numbers

CMTS1

3 MC28U cards
1 MC16C Card

Total of 7 downstreams currently supporting 1700 customers at about 80% utilized at peak time. This site offers 1.5-6.2 megs depending on service level.

CMTS 2

2 MC28U Cards
2 MC16C Cards

Total of 7 downstreams currently supporting 1600 customers at 75% utilization at peak same speeds as above

CMTS 3

1 MC28U
1 MC28C
2 MC16C

Total of 6 downstreams supporting 1300 customers with 85% utilization at peak same speeds as above

CMTS 4
1 MC28C
2 MC16C

Total of 3 downstreams supporting 1000 customers with 65% utilization at peak

The amount of customers per downstream will depend on usage of said downstream as a general rule we try and keep ours under 250 which works well for us, in some our more rural areas we have to keep it under 200 because there is a lot more usage.

We find we have excess upstream bandwidth, but a good rule of thumb for us is <100 customers per upstream QPSK/TDMA, and <150 for ATDMA upstreams.

In our biggest area we launched internet with 1 7246vxr for 2500 customers and 50+ nodes we quickly outgrew this setup and first went to all MC28U blades then added a new 7246vxr and now we are at 4 CMTSes with a fifth to come shortly, 23 Downstream and 5500 customers. If I were launching this same setup again today I would use 1 7246VXR and 3 MC88V blades and have more capacity (24 downstreams) than I have now even without adding docsis 3.0 into the mix.

The numbers that work for me are

Docsis 1.x, 2.0

Downstream -- < 250 customers per port
Upstream -- < 100 per port in TDMA <150 per port in ATDMA

Docsis 3.0

This is new to us we are just getting into it but here is the numbers I am starting with (we are using the 7225VXR for our deployment)
Downstreams (up to 4 bonded channels per port) < 750 customers per port with 4 bonded channels
Upstreams < 150 customers per port in ATDMA Not currently bonding upstream channels at this time.

Even with a fully loaded ubr 7246vxr with 4 MC88V blades I think you would have a hard time doing 10k customers more realistically 5-6k but that would depend on what you are offering and what customers are using.

sorry for the long winded answer but there is no quick and dirty answer.

Great info, btw.

So how about a non-VXR with four MC16C's and a NPE225 offering service levels between 256k and 3.0m? I'm transitioning my legacy modems to DOCSIS 1.0 for starters and have a total of 1550 modems to do as it currently stands. Something tells me the non-VXR with only a NPE 225 and limited backplane will fall on its side before I even get close.

Comments?

Poge

1550 would probably be a bit much for a non-vxr, we got away with about 1300 customers on a vxr with npe400 and 4 mc16Cs for a while but eventually had to bite the bullet and put a NPEG1 in and more recently a MC28U. With the 400npe we could only push about 80 megs of throughput through with the G1 and 1 MC28U we are able to push 150+ (we just got another 50 megs there yesterday so don't know the ceiling just yet)

The good news is NPEg1s and MC28Us are dirt cheap right now in the used market approx 2k for a chassis with a G1 and 2k each for the MC28Us. So a fully loaded 7246vxr used is like 10kish.

If you have a little more to spend you can get a brand new 7225 vxr with a G2 and 1 MC88V blade for 30-35k which would allow you to grow into and have lots of room for growth, not to mention you could put your high bandwidth customers on docsis 3.

All else fails you could probably get away with 2 non-vxr 7246 with 4 MC16Cs ea and both with 225s. It would just take up a lot of rackspace and be twice as much work to get setup